Kathleen Kelly Janus is the author of the new book, Social Startup Success. The book focuses on “…best practices for testing ideas, measuring impact, funding experimentation, leading collectively and storytelling with purpose.”

Host Steve Boland talks to Kathleen about falling in love with fixing a problem rather than with a specific solution, measuring outputs vs. outcomes, testing and revising programs or interventions, design thinking in problem solving, and more.

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